Hello Bill, You might want to look at ../../state/19.34_RCW/ I've still got to get an audit. If you know anybody who does audits in exchange for public service, or anybody who would pay for such an audit, do let me know. After educating my kids, there's not enough left over for an annual audit at the price I have been quoted. Meh, I'll get there some day. see also http://wp.colliertech.org/cj/?cat=185 and also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590593 I have noticed that the DoD's CA is included in neither the NSS trust root nor Debian's. Any idea why? V/R, C.J.